The future potential of the Greenskins

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a day ago
Nov 5, 2024, 11:46:00 PM

Based upon the revealings and what we may or may not have learned from redacted, I've created a provisionary overview of potential future Greenskins content. Behold, the maximalist version:


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Im not saying its going to happen, or should, I just want to show the potential. But in any case, if the redacted is true, then I'd say there is every reason to expect a further DLC. And maybe one is all that is needed in the end. You can look at #4 and #5 here and suggest a way to combine them. I recommend using jediwomble's excellently crafted list of remaining stuff to see what's available. Lets see if we can find some common ground.


Also, yay for my 100th thread!

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a day ago
Nov 6, 2024, 12:12:14 AM

No way you get 2 wolf rider LLs in a row.


LP1 The Wolf Packs

LL Ghazak Kahn

LH Gitilla da Hunter


LP2 Black Orcs' Revenge

LL Morglum Knecksnapper

LH Borgut Facebeater


FLL Gorfang Rotgut

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a day ago
Nov 6, 2024, 1:20:23 AM

The Greenskins hate the Hobogoblins and would never work with them wouldn't it make more sense for the potential hobogoblin units be given to the Chaos Dwarfs as a fun alternative play style such as Nakai for the lizardmen?

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a day ago
Nov 6, 2024, 2:22:41 AM

I would really like to see even more Greenskins content too!

 But we can see that that's not what CA wants... 

By putting Snagla in LH they cut themselves off from their best potential additional content... 

Gitilla da Hunter is still available, but he should have been chosen, because he has less originality, he is a common Goblin (like Grom) and he would have been perfect as a legendary hero of the common orc ( Gorbad), which would have left the theme of Forest Goblins at Snagla... there it is dead...


Maybe they give themselves the opportunity to make a Forest Goblin Shaman, with the Spider lore etc, but really the chances are very slim... 


As for the Hobgoblins, I would really like to see a Legendary Lord like Ghazak Khan, but in my opinion there is a greater chance of him arriving among the Dogs of War or the Chaos Dwarves than among the Greenskins, because even if they are basically part of the same "race", they hate each other so much now that they can't really mix...

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a day ago
Nov 6, 2024, 3:02:09 AM

Don't think the Hobgoblin Khans would be a Greenskin faction. They would have to get their own race pack, because Hobgoblins and other Greenskins don't play nice with each other, not since what happened during the big Greenskin slave revolt in Zharr-Naggrund.

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:15:09 AM

ToastingBread#6550 wrote:
The Greenskins hate the Hobogoblins and would never work with them
Player#80942 wrote:
because even if they are basically part of the same "race", they hate each other so much now that they can't really mix...
Darthplagueis13#4382 wrote:
because Hobgoblins and other Greenskins don't play nice with each other

Other Greenskins work with Ghazak Khan.  He suppresses GS animosity, and his army includes Orcs, Goblins and Trolls.  That's established lore.


He'd be the only GS LL that can take Hobgoblins though.

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:23:59 AM

DarthEnderX-#6513 wrote:

ToastingBread#6550 wrote:
The Greenskins hate the Hobogoblins and would never work with them
Player#80942 wrote:
because even if they are basically part of the same "race", they hate each other so much now that they can't really mix...
Darthplagueis13#4382 wrote:
because Hobgoblins and other Greenskins don't play nice with each other

Other Greenskins work with Ghazak Khan.  He suppresses GS animosity, and his army includes Orcs, Goblins and Trolls.  That's established lore.


He'd be the only GS LL that can take Hobgoblins though.

Hobgoblins won't even be in the game. Why talk about them? 

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:25:09 AM

I think the Hobgoblins should become: 


- Or a full-fledged faction (like FLC like Bretonnia, but would there be a complete and coherent roster? not sure...) 


- Either a Legendary Chaos Dwarf Lord, with access only to the Hobgoblins roster (but hey, the best candidate would have been Gorduz, but they made him a Legendary Hero) 


- Or that Ghazrak Khan arrives later with mechanics from Dogs of War (which is what he is basically in Warhammer), with why not a supplement later based on the Lost Factions: namely a Legendary Lord per "sub-faction " which only uses part of the Dogs of War roster. Like for example :

- Ghazak Khan = Hobgoblins 

- Sultan Jaffar = Araby 

- Dural Durak = Albion

- Mother Samantha = Amazons 

- Hisme Stoutheart = Halflings


But part of the Greenskins, I don't think it will be a good idea...

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:25:21 AM

TopKek#2685 wrote:
Hobgoblins won't even be in the game. 

Hobgoblins are already in the game.


Player#80942 wrote:
- Or a full-fledged faction (like FLC like Bretonnia, but would there be a complete and coherent roster? not sure...) 

That would be ideal, but I don't see it happening.

 

Player#80942 wrote:
- Or that Ghazrak Khan arrives later with mechanics from Dogs of War (which is what he is basically in Warhammer), with why not a supplement later based on the Lost Factions: namely a Legendary Lord per "sub-faction " which only uses part of the Dogs of War roster.

Ghazak's armies are made up of GS mercenaries.  So it makes more sense for him to be a GS LL with mercenary mechanics from the DoW.

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:28:47 AM

DarthEnderX-#6513 wrote:

TopKek#2685 wrote:
Hobgoblins won't even be in the game.

Hobgoblins are already in the game.

Yeah, but the race wont be in the game, stop talking about them. 

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:31:59 AM

TopKek#2685 wrote:
Yeah, but the race wont be in the game, stop talking about them. 

I wasn't talking about a Hobgoblin Race.

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:43:32 AM

TopKek#2685 wrote:

DarthEnderX-#6513 wrote:

TopKek#2685 wrote:
Hobgoblins won't even be in the game.

Hobgoblins are already in the game.

Yeah, but the race wont be in the game, stop talking about them. 

"Stop talking about contents pertaining to Total War: Warhammer 3 in the forum dedicated to Total War: Warhammer 3 dammnit!!!"

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20 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 4:47:55 AM

GreenColoured#3418 wrote:

TopKek#2685 wrote:

DarthEnderX-#6513 wrote:

TopKek#2685 wrote:
Hobgoblins won't even be in the game. 

Hobgoblins are already in the game.

Yeah, but the race wont be in the game, stop talking about them. 

"Stop talking about contents pertaining to Total War: Warhammer 3 in the forum dedicated to Total War: Warhammer 3 dammnit!!!"

Nah, just Darth mainly. He claims I'm trying to control what hes talking about here lol.

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16 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 9:01:40 AM

I mean, if redacted is true, then GS are still missing Manglers, Gigantic Spiders, Big Stabba and Squig Gobbas from 8th edition alone. Not to mention all the variants, generics and Gitilla. That's more immediate stuff than say Tomb Kings, who are pretty safe to say are gonna get one. I'd say it would definetly be warranted with a further one. The loss of Snagla is unfortunate, but Forest Goblins aren't the be-all-and-end-all argument for a further GS DLC. Their sheer volume speaks for itself.


This is gonna throw off my matching somewhat, but Im sure I can find a new thematic setup.

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16 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 9:05:04 AM

TheWattman#7460 wrote:
mean, if redacted is true, then GS are still missing Manglers, Gigantic Spiders, Big Stabba

We can truly say it until we saw the rest of the units

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15 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 9:22:38 AM

I mean if we want to get technical, Snagla isn't the ONLY named Forest Goblin.

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15 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 9:24:30 AM

TheWattman#7460 wrote:
Gigantic Spiders, Big Stabba and Squig Gobbas from 8th edition alone

These might not come at all. Big Stabba is the only army book thing, and it can be implemented as scrap upgrade for Savage Orcs. 

Lack of Mangler Squigs would be a real problem, that's true.

TheWattman#7460 wrote:
Gitilla

Maybe Greenskins will get FLC LH later on. Or not. Gitilla isn't the most popular character, so people would hardly notice.


TheWattman#7460 wrote:
Tomb Kings, who are pretty safe to say are gonna get one

What makes you so sure?

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15 hours ago
Nov 6, 2024, 9:45:13 AM

SerPus#7395 wrote:

What makes you so sure?

Lack of Liche High Priests (their only magic generic lord, they've been stuck at just the Tomb King since they came in), Tomb Heralds, Khemric Titan and popular boi Apophas as a LH. Plus a sizeable rework to bring them to WH3 standards.

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