Plus a proper Dragon Mage model with Dragon Prince steed and Sun Dragon mount. Fire Mage then just gets standard mounts.

Sea trades and something to represent Dragon Ships (not a copy and paste of Black Arcs please) would be good. 

I would like Teclis to get some kind of teleport mechanism, now they are in game. If his campaign is about visiting the colonies, he chould be able to zoom back to Saphery (as he does in the trailer) to help his brother. Perhaps he can transport between buildings with Archives or Grand Repositories (with a cooldown). Put Caradryan on a Phoenix and put Teclis back on a horse. Give his sword a single use ability that can protect him against another melee character should they get too close (this is, to me, a better representative of his tabletop swords ability, he built it to kill Daemons, after all). 

I want Korhil as a legendary hero who protects a lord and makes White Lions good (I'd like White Lions to be good in their own right, but I don't see that happening for gameplay reasons). 

Teclis needs something like Gelt but different. 

For HE in general I'm hoping for a major rework like WE or WoC. They are just way to outdated and vanilla. The yreally need an in depth politics mechanic on par with the Chaos Dwarfs. 

As per usual, loose ideas, all:

High Elves rework in order of importance: 

1. Ulthuan is ruled by the Twin Thrones, the Phoenix King and the Everqueen. Both hold their own courts which rival with each other. Both give importance to different spheres of rulership: Court of the Phoenix King - war-like and expansionist Court of the Everqueen - peaceful and introverted

 Both courts would offer different bonuses through progress based on favoured actions. For example, felling enemies would award points with CotPK, while keeping high Public Order would benefit standing with CotE.

 The player would participate in fights with NPCs over positions in both courts, balancing their standing. This is what dillemmata system should revolve around. It could work similar to Pharaoh's Royal Court, Medieval2's Papal Election, or Chaos Dwarfs's Tower of Zharr. Of course, it wouldn't be possible to dethrone the Phoenix King and the Everqueen. Alarielle (and Finubar in case he becomes playable) should have unique interactions with these mechanics.

It should be possible to use influence to affect diplomacy, forge and break alliances, maneuver allies and enemies into wars. 

2. The Ten Kingdoms system akin to Empire's Imperial Authority and Fealty. While the Asur do fight with each other in the lore, it makes little sense for them to murder each other in order to unite. Allow players to build relationships between the kingdoms with the use of actions and dillemmata. Give them special RoRs for achieving certain goals, for example SEM White Lion for forging bond with Chrace. 

3. Naval caravans & Elftowns. Players would establish Elftowns in port cities and upgrade them by completing caravan missions. Upgrades affecting host settlement would require additional influence cost. Elftowns would generate influence, open better allied recruitment, provide greater income, and maybe allow to affect choice of buildings made by NPC factons. Protecting sea lanes would increase their stability rating and increase benefits from caravans. Failing the task would do the opposite. 

4. The Great Vortex & Waystones restoration. Players would preserve the Waystone network and reduce the presence of Chaos in the world. The stronger the Great Vortex the weaker Winds of Magic become, except for those who rule over it. Chaos races would benefit from destroying Waystones and unbinding the Great Vortex.

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Maedrethnir#1968 wrote:

1. Ulthuan is ruled by the Twin Thrones, the Phoenix King and the Everqueen. Both hold their own courts which rival with each other. Both give importance to different spheres of rulership: Court of the Phoenix King - war-like and expansionist Court of the Everqueen - peaceful and introverted

 Both courts would offer different bonuses through progress based on favoured actions. For example, felling enemies would award points with CotPK, while keeping high Public Order would benefit standing with CotE.

 The player would participate in fights with NPCs over positions in both courts, balancing their standing. This is what dillemmata system should revolve around. It could work similar to Pharaoh's Royal Court, Medieval2's Papal Election, or Chaos Dwarfs's Tower of Zharr. Of course, it wouldn't be possible to dethrone the Phoenix King and the Everqueen. Alarielle (and Finubar in case he becomes playable) should have unique interactions with these mechanics.

It should be possible to use influence to affect diplomacy, forge and break alliances, maneuver allies and enemies into wars. 

Why not? 

Assuming Finubar becomes playable (unlikely, but let say he does) in a sandbox why shouldn't I, as Tyrion say, decide that I would be the better leader of Ulthuan and seek to replace him? This is what I'm hoping will be possible in the Empire, should Boris be added. 

Alarielle is in place by birth, so she shouldn't be replaced.

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eomat#7953 wrote:

Plus a proper Dragon Mage model with Dragon Prince steed and Sun Dragon mount. Fire Mage then just gets standard mounts.

Fire mages getting a dragon mount is exactly how dragon mages happen narratively...

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LennoxPoodle#1380 wrote:

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eomat#7953 wrote:

Plus a proper Dragon Mage model with Dragon Prince steed and Sun Dragon mount. Fire Mage then just gets standard mounts.

Fire mages getting a dragon mount is exactly how dragon mages happen narratively...

Given the choice between a new Annointed model, a Sea Helm, or an updated model and skill tree for Fire Mages, the Fire Mage is in a very distant third place. 

Great ideas ! I would really like to play the HE with such mechanics. 

However, what about some particular LL mechanics ?

Teclis beeing able to use téléportation seems interesting, and I imagine he will get a rework somehow similar to Gelt. 

Eltharion feels great imo.

Alarielle could play like KF in the sense she should unite the donut above all. 

Alith Anar ... I have played him recently and the 20 turns cooldown to his assassin mechanic feels wrong. He could get something way cooler and better. And he should really be seen as an outcast by other HE. 

What about Tyrion tho ? 

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DrJammat#8325 wrote:

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Maedrethnir#1968 wrote:

1. Ulthuan is ruled by the Twin Thrones, the Phoenix King and the Everqueen. Both hold their own courts which rival with each other. Both give importance to different spheres of rulership: Court of the Phoenix King - war-like and expansionist Court of the Everqueen - peaceful and introverted

 Both courts would offer different bonuses through progress based on favoured actions. For example, felling enemies would award points with CotPK, while keeping high Public Order would benefit standing with CotE.

 The player would participate in fights with NPCs over positions in both courts, balancing their standing. This is what dillemmata system should revolve around. It could work similar to Pharaoh's Royal Court, Medieval2's Papal Election, or Chaos Dwarfs's Tower of Zharr. Of course, it wouldn't be possible to dethrone the Phoenix King and the Everqueen. Alarielle (and Finubar in case he becomes playable) should have unique interactions with these mechanics.

It should be possible to use influence to affect diplomacy, forge and break alliances, maneuver allies and enemies into wars. 

Why not? 

Assuming Finubar becomes playable (unlikely, but let say he does) in a sandbox why shouldn't I, as Tyrion say, decide that I would be the better leader of Ulthuan and seek to replace him? This is what I'm hoping will be possible in the Empire, should Boris be added. 

Alarielle is in place by birth, so she shouldn't be replaced.

Because the Phoenix King can be replaced only after his death. There was one who tried to hasten the happening and we know where it led to.

But, like you said, it is a sandbox, and, so, I could imagine an event where all of Ulthuan rebels and declares war on the player if the player decides to take the throne by force. It should probably also trigger the Druchii invasion.

There is also a more metaphysical problem to be solved. What about Asuryan's blessing? Should the player become cursed? Could there be a choice to be made, where the player can choose to enter the Sacred Flame protected, unprotected, or skip the ritual altogether? Could the player get to decide when to undergo trial by fire, that is traditionally (a year after the last Phoenix King's death), immediately, or whenever the player wants? I could see there being interplaying systems in place, leading to different outcomes.

LennoxPoodle#1380 wrote:

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eomat#7953 wrote:

Plus a proper Dragon Mage model with Dragon Prince steed and Sun Dragon mount. Fire Mage then just gets standard mounts.

Fire mages getting a dragon mount is exactly how dragon mages happen narratively...

A Dragon Mage could be an upgrade to Fire Mage, but it most definitely should have bespoke appearance and skills to reflect the distinction. 

It is the only unique mage type in High Elf roster.

​Visual Guide to the Ten Kingdoms: The Dragon Mage of Caledor

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Pr4vda#6038 wrote:

Great ideas ! I would really like to play the HE with such mechanics. 

However, what about some particular LL mechanics ?

Teclis beeing able to use téléportation seems interesting, and I imagine he will get a rework somehow similar to Gelt. 

Eltharion feels great imo.

Alarielle could play like KF in the sense she should unite the donut above all. 

Alith Anar ... I have played him recently and the 20 turns cooldown to his assassin mechanic feels wrong. He could get something way cooler and better. And he should really be seen as an outcast by other HE. 

What about Tyrion tho ? 

I recall somebody suggested Alith Anar could become a horde or semi horde faction. That's an interesting idea that could create a different playing experience.

Would also love a Pantheon mechanic for all the Elves based on Troy and Pharao. 

I LOVE some of the ideas in this thread!

Sea caravans, yes!

Vortex mechanic that weakens chaos/redirects magic through rituals, yes!

Tower of zharr counterpart, yes!

Someone even said elftowns which i think would work great as a version of gardens of morr, with a few options for buildings and possibly teleportation. 

Personally I don't like the current use for influence very much, I wish I could spend it to guaran diplomatic deal, rather than just increasing/decreasing relations.

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Thomashu#5291 wrote:

I might be wrong but it's more and more likely that Dark Elves won't be in the next LP alongside Slaanesh and High Elves.

Since the High Elves need a good rework, as well as additional mechanics for each individual LL who don't have any (Tyrion, Teclis,...). Same can be said about Dark Elves.

Putting them both in the same package would be too much work, even though I really hope to be wrong. Would suck if High Elves were getting a massive update while their nemesis are still on the back burner.

None of them need a serious  rework 

And One of them not have the capacity  to even come close to 5 units and everything  in between aka DE

Except for barrel scrapping 

In fact he make perfect  sense as they are pretty simple faction to rework and their units not need alot of work

They also being a popular  faction can easily help support the pack 

I think is a norsca or b vampire Counts with slannesh 

Even when I say bet on the vc as they are a 8 edition race and people tired of waiting for neferata

Teclis definitely needs something like an elven version of the Gardens of Morr. His campaign is so slow expanding due to all the poor climate settlements and it almost incentivises you to declare war on the lizardmen for their territory which feels wrong. I think an Embassy/Elftown option to teleport around would make his campaign more fun but maybe limit it to only being built in allied settlements. Would also be nice if High Elves got visiblity from trade agreements back.

Also for Teclis possibly reduce upkeep of allied units or allow allied units to get buffs from his skill line. Lose bound fireball and replace it with something better, give him access to cataclysm spells and make him more powerful as a mage to fit with the lore. You could also add a White Tower training mechanic similar to the Kislev Ice Mage one which lets you train mages and loremasters. Ideally I'd lose the phoenix mount too.

For High Elves in general trade ships and Phoenix court mechanics would be good since the current mods for those work nicely.

One thing I always hate is that damn Sword of Khaine and how often Alarielle draws it and goes on a murder crusade. I know for some its a fun mechanic but in lore you would only ever use it in absolute desperation and even then its a bad idea. Never been a fan of High Elves grabbing it.

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MidnightRat#9476 wrote:

One thing I always hate is that damn Sword of Khaine and how often Alarielle draws it and goes on a murder crusade. I know for some its a fun mechanic but in lore you would only ever use it in absolute desperation and even then its a bad idea. Never been a fan of High Elves grabbing it.

Surely this should be an easy fix, just make her more likely to return it when she claims it than other elves, as its not in her character, 

Add me to the fans of Elftowns as visible undercity type colonies. If Elves can have a presence in allied territory then this changes the way they play for the better.