Passive Campaign AI on Legendary Difficulty
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6 months ago
Mar 27, 2024, 6:57:21 PM

The primary example in the uploaded save file is Drycha. She has been at war with Stirland for a while and still has not managed to wipe them out. Additionally, she's at war with Ungrim and Kostaltyn with the latter having only her as her enemy and no one else, but they still are unable to finish her. It's mostly just sack and run gameplay. 

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6 months ago
Mar 27, 2024, 7:27:18 PM
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I've definitely seen countless examples of passive AI ever since Immortal empire release. It's as if CA got too much backlash in version 1.0 for AI being too aggressive and just nerfed it to the ground.

Here's an example that I've seen many times with crisis factions. Been at war with them since turn 10 and I got sight of this since at least 20 turns.

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6 months ago
Mar 28, 2024, 10:28:34 PM
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This look like my game now, except i dont have end game crisis active and i play on VH/VH. Vlad is at war with 3 factions. At some point the AI just stop trying and it makes it unfun. 


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6 months ago
Mar 30, 2024, 9:42:38 PM
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Auto-save__Legendary_.The_Deceivers.21032024.2155002768139268-1.save




Its not just the AI not attacking and being too passive. Its also too easy because of various things including but not limited to high economy mid to late game, the way corruption is easily acquired and gotten rid of (needs to be toned down per battle and per character), growth is very high even dwarfs are at tier 5 by turn 60 or 70 if done right, public order takes care of itself enough for you to just move on and keep conquering instead of using resources to pacify and hold back rebellions, exp and money gained through battles.


 Just so many compounding things that makes for a much easier experience. Sliders and optional caps could be implemented to make a challenging gameplay experience.


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5 months ago
Apr 4, 2024, 2:23:26 PM
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Not only Legendary difficulty, other difficulties too! I encountered on hard mode!

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4 months ago
May 3, 2024, 1:17:48 PM
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[ARCHIVED] 5.0.1 - 26763

I have noticed that the AI is very passive in normal difficultly. It is not

 the case in Warhammer 2 . 

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4 months ago
May 14, 2024, 12:16:47 PM
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[ARCHIVED] 5.0.2 - 26812

beware if you are using some AI mod

and exemple, organic AI remove the threat from the player to AI instead of tuning it. Probably because the author didn't take the time to read how is calculated threat

It's probably the case for some others ai mod

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3 months ago
Jun 26, 2024, 12:15:11 PM
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5.1.0 - 27624

Thought I'd give another example from Very Hard. Valkia the Bloody is just standing there with stacks of 1 or 2 unit armies doing nothing.

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2 months ago
Jul 13, 2024, 3:35:43 PM
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5.1.1 - 27825

This is so frustrating that this hasn't been addressed yet in the latest patch.  How long is this going to go on?  It just kills the game when the AI just sits passively in one spot.

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2 months ago
Jul 17, 2024, 5:02:13 AM
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5.1.1 - 27825

It's not just the sack-and-run issue either.


Even factions with Legendary Lords, like Sigvald's faction, can sit for 50+ turns literally not at war with a single other faction.


Back in the days of Total Warhammer I, Wood Elves were known as the one faction that plays excessively passively and holds its Athel Loren territory, to the point of not declaring war on anyone for lengthy periods of time.


Now, even anti-order factions and all sorts of other factions that are not Wood Elves sit around literally idle.


So we went from one terrible campaign map gameplay setup, where factions would declare war on the player from the other side of the Immortal Empires map without every being in contact with the player... to a map full of mentally addled factions that either declare war and just never finish off their enemy, or just don't declare any wars ever, and stack five armies around their capital forever.

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18 days ago
Aug 29, 2024, 9:24:56 AM
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5.2.1 - 28698

Kholek stand with 3  full army next to enemy setlement and doesn't attack and Nakai just stant with full army near his starting location.

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