Marienburg as a mini FLC Race in 2025

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Captain_Rex#1635

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Mar 19, 2025, 12:34:30 PM

2025 is supposed to be a big year for WH3 since it’s a special anniversary. And there is nothing better than celebrating an Anniversary than with a nice gift.

First of all, I don’t want to turn this thread into another „Marienburg Empire or DoW“ debate. We had this enough already. In a perfect world Marienburg would be its own unique and separate thing that takes stuff from both races while having unique goodies as well.

So the idea is to create a relatively simple FLC mini race ala DoC with a shared roster and unique mechanics, buildings and tech. Perfect FLC material.

It’s important to point out that this FLC would either come alongside the DoW DLC or after it since a substantial part of the „expanded Merc Roster“ would be DoW regiments (more on that later).

Marienburg should also come with some unique things for itself so let’s start with the new stuff that would come with this FLC.

Interestingly enough, Marienburg also has unique campaign Assets for its own race since the game launched. So CA seems to have some plans with it.

Legendary Lord

Edvard van der Kraal

Finding a LL for Marienburg is tricky but then also not that tricky. The City State is governed by the Landsraad, a Council consisting of the richest and most influential people within the City. The issue is that none of these are LL material and mainly rich fat Merchants. So just like Elspeth for Nuln or the Skaven LLs for their respective Clans, Edvard van der Kraal would be the LL for Marienburg here while the real Faction Leaders operate in the back. Don’t worry tho, there should be a Mechanic for the Landsraad.

Edvard was introduced in the Tamurkhan book alongside the Landship. He is a mercenary, Smuggler, Pirate, Captain and the only actual TT character we have from Marienburg.

Generic Characters

Marienburg General (Lord)

Basically the Captain from the Landship model. There should be a male Lord (Sword + Pistol) and a female Lord (Riffle) version.

The model looks great and just screams Marienburg. It’s interesting that there are game files that directly code this character as a Marienburg General.

Sea Matriarch (High Priestess of Manaan)

Basically an Arch Lector equivalent for Manaan.

Sailor-Priest of Manaan (Hero)

Manaan is the main Deity in Marienburg so there should be a thematic equivalent to the Sigmar Priest and the inevitable Ulric Priest. This priest would come with unique prayers and could increase movement on sea and give storm immunity for example.

Priest of Stromfels (Hero)

Quite similar to the Priest of Manaan but still very different, the Priest of Stromfels focuses more on the pirate aspect. He would have unique prayers and buff raiding, sacking and post battle loot.

Maybe and this might be controversial, also make them lore of Deep casters but that’s just one idea to add more flavour to Marienburg.

Note:

Marienburg would still also have access to certain basic Empire and DoW characters like:

Empire General
Empire Wizards
Witch Hunters
Empire Captain
DoW Paymaster
Engineer (if you own ToD)

New Units

Blades of Manaan

These heavy armoured elite Swordsmen come from the Tamurkhan book and are to Swordsmen what Ironsides are to handgunners. Would probably be your new thematic staple unit for Marienburg.

Marienburg Sailors

This model also comes from the Marienburg Landship, would be a shame to not reuse it for other units since it looks great.

This would be a basic low tier unit that comes with several weapon variants:

Dual Swords
Sword + Pistol
Grenades
Riffles

Knights Mariner

This is a Knightly Order unit directly linked to Marienburg and Manaan. Either make them regular cavalry knights or Foot Knights.

Other Units:

Besides these new Marienburg coded units there would also be units taken from the core Empire roster and the basic DoW roster plus Slayer Pirates.

The DoW units are hard to speculate about since we don’t know the actual roster yet but they should generally only be recruitable via a Merc pool (like Raise Dead or Rome 2 Mercs).

The empire units would be everything from State Troops, Greatswords, Empire Knights, Mortars, Cannons, War Wagons, Free Company Militia, Archers and so on. And obviously also the Marienburg Landship.

So much about the roster…

Buildings & Tech Tree

Marienburg should have its own Dutch flavoured building tree and tech tree to show that it’s less focused on farming and industry but on trade, navy and mercenaries. The current empire building tree wouldn’t really represent that.

Instead of Sigmar Temples (Empire) and Myrmydia temples (DoW), it should have temples for Manaan and Haendryk.

Therefore it should also have a unique tech tree or at least a mix of the Empire and DoW tech tree.

Mechanics

Speculating about Mechanics is always the most difficult and I don’t want to make this thread even longer. So I keep it simple and just describe the basic idea of each mechanic.

The Directorate

This is a complex and in depth internal politics mechanic that includes most of the big Parties within Marienburg. From Guilds, Family Houses or Religious Cults. The idea is to simulate how Marienburg is governed by a Council of many instead of an individual ruler. Edvard would therefore just function as the executive Person for the Landsraad Directorate.

Trading Offices

Marienburg would be able to establish trading offices in friendly or neutral settlements (like under cities or Ogre Camps). But furthermore should these trade offices allow to directly manage your trading business. So Ressources like Iron, Wood or Wine would become actual resources/currencies that you could gain and sell through local Trade offices.

I‘m not a trading expert but the idea is to have an engaging mechanic that allows you to directly influence trade in the game. From the quantities of resources that you import or export, to prices, storage, logistics and taxation. Basically the most in depth and complex trade system in the game.

Ship Building

Last but not least, Marienburg Generals and Edvard van der Kraal should have basic ship Building like the Vampire Coast. Plain and simple. Marienburg should play more like a Semi horde where you have the Wasteland as your hub while traveling the world building up your trade empire.

And that’s it. I personally think this would be a phenomenal FLC addition that would do justice to Marienburg as its own unique and independent nation, with its own culture and everything.

Updated a month ago.