Thank you CA for expanding Khuresh lands!

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 9:04:59 AM

Definitely glad they added that province. If memory serves the only thing added to the existing Immortal Empires map came with the Forge of the Chaos Dwarfs release.


I thought it was nice in TWW2 where there were a fair few settlements added then and again over the course of the game even in existing lands.


We have had landmarks added though in TWW3 which has been nice too.


But there is still potential for a fair bit more to be added even before considering opening up Ind and Khuresh. A few settlements in existing open parts of the map and then opening up the wastes a bit more and maybe even adding an island here or there.


Now if we could have some more trade goods added things would look even better. There’s no reason why the likes of Vodka, Tea, Silk, Tobacco and Jade couldn’t be added to spruce things up mainly around Cathay and Kislev. Some could be connected to the race specific buildings like Dwarf Beer and Elven Trinkets.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 9:43:56 AM

Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Friendly reminder that the new Province isn’t Khuresh. It’s the Cathayan Hinterlands. 

TBF, I take the name as being the bit of Khuresh currently under Cathayan control.



RikRiorik#9890 wrote:

Now if we could have some more trade goods added things would look even better. There’s no reason why the likes of Vodka, Tea, Silk, Tobacco and Jade couldn’t be added to spruce things up mainly around Cathay and Kislev. Some could be connected to the race specific buildings like Dwarf Beer and Elven Trinkets.

Words cannot describe how much I want this.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 1:41:06 PM

Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Friendly reminder that the new Province isn’t Khuresh. It’s the Cathayan Hinterlands. 

Yeah, actually I am kinda confused.

I mean Hinterland means inland right? But it is the border of Cathay, so how can it be Cathayan inland? 

Or say Hinterland has other meanings? 


My native speaker friends.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 1:51:50 PM

kaiki#4128 wrote:

Yeah, actually I am kinda confused.

I mean Hinterland means inland right? But it is the border of Cathay, so how can it be Cathayan inland? 

Or say Hinterland has other meanings? 


My native speaker friends.

According to Wikipedia, this is one of the meanings:​

  • In colonial usage, the term was applied to the surrounding areas of former European colonies in Africa, which, although not part of the colony itself, were influenced by the colony. By analogous general economic usage, hinterland can refer to the area surrounding a service from which customers are attracted, also called the market area.


With a broader meaning of a neighboring area that supports something more prosperous.

So, given the ‘Gate to Kuresh’ settlement is the one that controls the pass between this new area and Cathy proper, I think it’s supposed to be the bit of Kuresh that borders Cathay and is strongly influenced or controlled by it.


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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 1:52:53 PM

kaiki#4128 wrote:

Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Friendly reminder that the new Province isn’t Khuresh. It’s the Cathayan Hinterlands. 

Yeah, actually I am kinda confused.

I mean Hinterland means inland right? But it is the border of Cathay, so how can it be Cathayan inland? 

Or say Hinterland has other meanings? 


My native speaker friends.

Wiki: An area behind a coast or the shoreline of a river. Specifically, by the doctrine of the hinterland, the hinterland is the inland region lying behind a port and is claimed by the state that owns the coast.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 1:55:13 PM

Lord_Zarkov#7252 wrote:

kaiki#4128 wrote:

Yeah, actually I am kinda confused.

I mean Hinterland means inland right? But it is the border of Cathay, so how can it be Cathayan inland? 

Or say Hinterland has other meanings? 


My native speaker friends.

According to Wikipedia, this is one of the meanings:​

  • In colonial usage, the term was applied to the surrounding areas of former European colonies in Africa, which, although not part of the colony itself, were influenced by the colony. By analogous general economic usage, hinterland can refer to the area surrounding a service from which customers are attracted, also called the market area.


With a broader meaning of a neighboring area that supports something more prosperous.

So, given the ‘Gate to Kuresh’ settlement is the one that controls the pass between this new area and Cathy proper, I think it’s supposed to be the bit of Kuresh that borders Cathay and is strongly influenced or controlled by it.


Loreguy#1056 wrote:

kaiki#4128 wrote:

Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Friendly reminder that the new Province isn’t Khuresh. It’s the Cathayan Hinterlands. 

Yeah, actually I am kinda confused.

I mean Hinterland means inland right? But it is the border of Cathay, so how can it be Cathayan inland? 

Or say Hinterland has other meanings? 


My native speaker friends.

Wiki: An area behind a coast or the shoreline of a river. Specifically, by the doctrine of the hinterland, the hinterland is the inland region lying behind a port and is claimed by the state that owns the coast.

Thanks, I get it.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 1:58:45 PM

davedave1124#4773 wrote:

TBF, one of the settlements is called the Gateway to Khuresh. I still think it will be a mission based area that is not like the rest of the map.

This is my inclination as well. To be honest, I could see this being the furthest Khuresh is opened up.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 2:20:05 PM

Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Friendly reminder that the new Province isn’t Khuresh. It’s the Cathayan Hinterlands. 

This is up to debate. The settlement "gateway to Khuresh" is clearly at the northern frontier of the hinterlands. It implies that everything south to this settlement is actually Khuresh. This is even sort of confirmed by the name of the next settlement to the south which is only an "Outpost" so not Cathay proper.


My understanding is that the region is the "Cathayan Hinterlands [of Khuresh]" meaning that it is in the territory of Khuresh (geographically and historically speaking) but actually under Cathayan control.

Edit: Also checks out with the definitions of hinterland stated above. It is an area under Cathayan's colonial/commercial influence through its nearby ports but it may not be Cathay geographically speaking. Cathayans probaly say it's Cathay while "Khureshians" (Nagas ?) say it's part of Khuresh.


I'd say the "Cathayan Hinterlands" are basically Warhammer's Kashmir in terms of geopolitics : Both Khuresh and Cathay are claiming the territory but Cathay is currently the owner.

(Inb4 someone tries to tell me Warhammer's India is Ind and not Khuresh --> I know, the parallel here is only about the geopolitics of the region)


To be confirmed but there are clear arguments against "This is Cathay" because it's written "Cathayan".

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 2:25:13 PM

JungleElf#8229 wrote:

The settlement-names are uninspired, to say the least. But it might set a precedent for patch 7.0.

I'm thinking the names are quite generic because GW hasn't written new lore about them. That's probably why we still don't have anything in Ind and Khuresh, there is no lore for them, not even the geography of these regions and to open up those places they will have to write some lore.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 2:34:34 PM

Neodeinos#5871 wrote:

JungleElf#8229 wrote:

The settlement-names are uninspired, to say the least. But it might set a precedent for patch 7.0.

I'm thinking the names are quite generic because GW hasn't written new lore about them. That's probably why we still don't have anything in Ind and Khuresh, there is no lore for them, not even the geography of these regions and to open up those places they will have to write some lore.

Which is quite worrying. Not sure GW is willing to write lore for two whole countries just to allow CA to open up these regions. So it may be a nail in the coffin for Ind/Khuresh. Fingers crossed it's not and instead more a sign that this was a last minute addition and teaser.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 2:38:36 PM

MalalTheRenegade#5644 wrote:

Neodeinos#5871 wrote:

JungleElf#8229 wrote:

The settlement-names are uninspired, to say the least. But it might set a precedent for patch 7.0.

I'm thinking the names are quite generic because GW hasn't written new lore about them. That's probably why we still don't have anything in Ind and Khuresh, there is no lore for them, not even the geography of these regions and to open up those places they will have to write some lore.

Which is quite worrying. Not sure GW is willing to write lore for two whole countries just to allow CA to open up these regions. So it may be a nail in the coffin for Ind/Khuresh. Fingers crossed it's not and instead more a sign that this was a last minute addition and teaser.

They could also find other generic names for the rest of those regions but if GW isn't willing to write some lore that would be disappointing, they don't even need to write a lot, just names of regions and settlements and some background lore. Doesn't even have to be related to the races of Ind and Khuresh.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 3:49:07 PM

Neodeinos#5871 wrote:

MalalTheRenegade#5644 wrote:

Neodeinos#5871 wrote:

JungleElf#8229 wrote:

The settlement-names are uninspired, to say the least. But it might set a precedent for patch 7.0.

I'm thinking the names are quite generic because GW hasn't written new lore about them. That's probably why we still don't have anything in Ind and Khuresh, there is no lore for them, not even the geography of these regions and to open up those places they will have to write some lore.

Which is quite worrying. Not sure GW is willing to write lore for two whole countries just to allow CA to open up these regions. So it may be a nail in the coffin for Ind/Khuresh. Fingers crossed it's not and instead more a sign that this was a last minute addition and teaser.

They could also find other generic names for the rest of those regions but if GW isn't willing to write some lore that would be disappointing, they don't even need to write a lot, just names of regions and settlements and some background lore. Doesn't even have to be related to the races of Ind and Khuresh.

No matter how CA decides to open up Ind and Khuresh almost certainly its going to have to deal with Ind and Khuresh in some way.  The Lore GW has written for Cathay alone demands it honestly.  We were told that Li Dao is besieged at the southern boarder by the Snakemen of Khuresh and almost by the Tigermen of Ind.  If we open it up and there's no sign of Ind or Khuresh there, seems a bit unbelievable.


I think that it will only fully open into those areas proper if GW has the maps for both areas fully finished, including with ruins, buildings, fauna of Ind and Khuresh proper even if they use placeholder factions.  Its going to be a different situation than Araby.


At most, unless that happens, I can believe we'll likely get more more than one Hinterland of Khuresh type province in each.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 4:43:36 PM

Finally, a positive hint for the eventual grand opening of Khuresh. Can't wait for the Master of the Burning Winds and the Nagas.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 5:06:55 PM
It´s not Kuresh, it´s Cathay´s south region which wasn´t fully implemented yet. Most likely where Li Dao will be.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 5:09:48 PM

ByPiros#6333 wrote:
It´s not Kuresh, it´s Cathay´s south region which wasn´t fully implemented yet. Most likely where Li Dao will be.

It's not Cathay's region. It's the Hinterlands, which by definition is not a part of the main territory. Notice the lack of city/village names.

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a month ago
Dec 7, 2024, 5:43:09 PM

Wood_Sprite#1284 wrote:

ByPiros#6333 wrote:
It´s not Kuresh, it´s Cathay´s south region which wasn´t fully implemented yet. Most likely where Li Dao will be.

It's not Cathay's region. It's the Hinterlands, which by definition is not a part of the main territory. Notice the lack of city/village names.

From what I´ve seen Cathay technically claims the territory, but the monkey king is the one who rules the area around the mountain range.

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