Toad Dragons, Mutalith Vortex Beasts and Slaughterbrutes, what will be coming for Slaanesh?

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 3:40:15 AM
Toad Dragons, Mutalith Vortex Beasts and Slaughterbrutes are all four limbed (mostly) Tier V single entity monsters for the other 3 gods, that can take a beating and dish one out.  Slaanesh does not have a big brutish monster to ft this roll for itself like the other 3 gods. The Dreadmaw is the only possible contender but seems like it will be more fragile than the other 3 due to being Slaanshi and a snake. Or is there some other monster deep in some obscure old lore I'm unaware of Slaanesh could get.
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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 3:43:25 AM

Slaanesh shouldn't get any big dumb monsters because Slaanesh isn't about big dumb monsters, he's about things that require at least some sort of self-awareness and intellectual prowess. 


Adding "centerpiece" models for the sake of doing so was always stupid and is mostly a gacha-gamer demand anyway. 

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 3:44:44 AM

Tier 5 would be Basilisk.


KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:

Preyton. A Tier 5 flying monster with high speed and ap. 

Preyton is nowhere near tier 5.

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 3:49:47 AM

NickCageStoleMyFace#5594 wrote:

Tier 5 would be Basilisk.


KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:

Preyton. A Tier 5 flying monster with high speed and ap. 

Preyton is nowhere near tier 5.

It would be, because it has wings so presumably it flies, which automatically raises it closer to a tier above. So long as its stats are mid Tier 4, it will be a Tier 5 monster. 

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 3:50:12 AM

Gangstamonkey214#3448 wrote:
The Dreadmaw is the only possible contender but seems like it will be more fragile than the other 3 due to being Slaanshi and a snake.

It's not fragile. It has the same Toughness, Wounds and Scaly Skin as Mutalith Vortex Beast and Slaughterbrute

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 3:58:57 AM

TainBoCuailinge#8335 wrote:
Slaanesh is about self-awareness and intellectual prowess. 

Huh? Since when Tzeentch is about schemeing and intelligence and gets a big smashy monster. Slaanesh is getting one to in some form or another. The Basilisk could be cool. Its connected to Slaanesh with its reptile/snake origins and Slaanesh has a connection to snakes.


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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 4:00:41 AM

KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:
It would be, because it has wings so presumably it flies, which automatically raises it closer to a tier above. So long as its stats are mid Tier 4, it will be a Tier 5 monster. 

Preytons cost less than a Cockatrice so that theory doesn't exist. Cockatrice is tier 33xbVyJh.pngScreenshot 2025-06-20 155641.png


Realistically Preyton should be tier 3 and Chimera should be tier 4.

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Jun 20, 2025, 4:05:49 AM

NickCageStoleMyFace#5594 wrote:

KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:
It would be, because it has wings so presumably it flies, which automatically raises it closer to a tier above. So long as its stats are mid Tier 4, it will be a Tier 5 monster. 

Preytons cost less than a Cockatrice so that theory doesn't exist. Cockatrice is tier 33xbVyJh.pngScreenshot 2025-06-20 155641.png


Realistically Preyton should be tier 3 and Chimera should be tier 4.

Norsca doesn't need Tier 4 monsters.


Is there a website for this whole tabletop pricing? 

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 4:19:13 AM

Gangstamonkey214#3448 wrote:

TainBoCuailinge#8335 wrote:
Slaanesh is about self-awareness and intellectual prowess. 

Huh? Since when Tzeentch is about schemeing and intelligence and gets a big smashy monster. Slaanesh is getting one to in some form or another. The Basilisk could be cool. Its connected to Slaanesh with its reptile/snake origins and Slaanesh has a connection to snakes.


I believe that Tzeentch is about change and mutation more than scheming. That's what I think I heard. 

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Jun 20, 2025, 4:26:37 AM

KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:

Norsca doesn't need Tier 4 monsters.

Sorry, by that I mean Chaos Frost Dragons should go to Tier 5 and be buffed. Surprised they didn't do it when they officially made it a dragon from a "Frost Wyrm".


No way a Chaos Dragon should be in the same Tier as a Chimera or even more so a Preyton.

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 4:28:02 AM

Sorry to tell you Nick, but this theory totally exists. Kadai Fireborn have exactly 16 models on Ultra size and cost 1400 gold. 16 x 55 = 730 points, which is 2x more than Destroyers cost on...TT...same goes with Bull Centaur Renders, which have equal models and actually cost more in the game, but less on TT. Meaning, that CA will, as they always do, balance things their own way, for their own game.


Also, the Preyton simply fits better because of roster necessities. Slaanesh still doesn't have good flyers and this monster only costs 50 points less than a Bale Tauros (Tier 4 in the game) on the tabletop thing...which isn't even a factor, when looking at the Kadai Destroyer and Incarnate of Beasts. Same pricing on TT, different pricing in the game. You're just wrong in the whole textbook tabletop translation to the game, CA isn't doing these things.


Collosal Squig costs 3x less more or less than Incarnate of Beasts and Destroyers and is Tier 4...I can probably go on and on, but the point is made imo. Tabletop is just not valuable for these things.


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Jun 20, 2025, 4:51:01 AM

KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:

Sorry to tell you Nick, but this theory totally exists. Kadai Fireborn have exactly 16 models on Ultra size and cost 1400 gold. 16 x 55 = 730 points, which is 2x more than Destroyers cost on...TT...same goes with Bull Centaur Renders, which have equal models and actually cost more in the game, but less on TT. Meaning, that CA will, as they always do, balance things their own way, for their own game.


Also, the Preyton simply fits better because of roster necessities. Slaanesh still doesn't have good flyers and this monster only costs 50 points less than a Bale Tauros (Tier 4 in the game) on the tabletop thing...which isn't even a factor, when looking at the Kadai Destroyer and Incarnate of Beasts. Same pricing on TT, different pricing in the game. You're just wrong in the whole textbook tabletop translation to the game, CA isn't doing these things.


Collosal Squig costs 3x less more or less than Incarnate of Beasts and Destroyers and is Tier 4...I can probably go on and on, but the point is made imo. Tabletop is just not valuable for these things.

Its all about Power Scale, and a Chaos Dragon would demolish a Preyton, it's not even funny.


Sure something may jump a tier here or there but mostly its consistent with TT or lore. A Preyton jumping to Tier 5 makes absolutely no sense.

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Jun 20, 2025, 5:02:28 AM

NickCageStoleMyFace#5594 wrote:

KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:

Sorry to tell you Nick, but this theory totally exists. Kadai Fireborn have exactly 16 models on Ultra size and cost 1400 gold. 16 x 55 = 730 points, which is 2x more than Destroyers cost on...TT...same goes with Bull Centaur Renders, which have equal models and actually cost more in the game, but less on TT. Meaning, that CA will, as they always do, balance things their own way, for their own game.


Also, the Preyton simply fits better because of roster necessities. Slaanesh still doesn't have good flyers and this monster only costs 50 points less than a Bale Tauros (Tier 4 in the game) on the tabletop thing...which isn't even a factor, when looking at the Kadai Destroyer and Incarnate of Beasts. Same pricing on TT, different pricing in the game. You're just wrong in the whole textbook tabletop translation to the game, CA isn't doing these things.


Collosal Squig costs 3x less more or less than Incarnate of Beasts and Destroyers and is Tier 4...I can probably go on and on, but the point is made imo. Tabletop is just not valuable for these things.

Its all about Power Scale, and a Chaos Dragon would demolish a Preyton, it's not even funny.


Sure something may jump a tier here or there but mostly its consistent with TT and lore. A Preyton jumping to Tier 5 makes absolutely no sense.

Well, Slaanesh shouldn't get a flyer to be better than a Bloodthirster anyway, so it should be fragile, fast, hard hitting but ultimately not strong enough to be competitive, but just the way all Slaanesh units in the roster work...so, I guess it should be Tier 4? but the thing about DLC units is that they are OP to look good, so if it turns up it will be Tier 5 and this just makes sense from gameplay perspective.

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20 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 5:50:59 AM

NickCageStoleMyFace#5594 wrote:

KhaineIncarnate#6730 wrote:

Norsca doesn't need Tier 4 monsters.

Sorry, by that I mean Chaos Frost Dragons should go to Tier 5 and be buffed. Surprised they didn't do it when they officially made it a dragon from a "Frost Wyrm".


No way a Chaos Dragon should be in the same Tier as a Chimera or even more so a Preyton.

The Chimera looks like something meant to be a bit better than Manticores, but mainly as support units with the 4 heads. So, I don't expect it to be higher than Tier 3 with no rampage. 


The Frost Dragon should stay where it is, because bumping it to Tier 5 would make other flyers less competitive. A Bloodthirster is Tier 5 only because it is flying, but it has the profile of a Tier 4 monster. So, if Frost Dragons are bumped to Tier 5, then they will demolish Bloodthirsters in melee and I think only Star Dragons should be able to boss them as they do currently.

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19 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 7:11:49 AM

Dread Maw or the Archfiend. None of the other Chaos Monsters fit Slaanesh.

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19 days ago
Jun 20, 2025, 7:29:06 AM

TheWattman#7460 wrote:

Dread Maw or the Archfiend. None of the other Chaos Monsters fit Slaanesh.

Archfiend would be peak but isn't that not just a slannesh demon?


But I go with dreadmaw

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