in the meantime here is a mod for that
Soulstrider (Hexwraiths)

lmao that's gold xD  "One, two... One,two... Lost the Target" is so cute <3

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Haganaz#8763 wrote:

lmao that's gold xD  "One, two... One,two... Lost the Target" is so cute <3

You are right with you suggestions! Ethereal units should get some serious overhoul!

I saw Cairn Wraiths get stomped by Black Orks with NO magical attacks even through technicly Wraiths should win that one! Its preposterous!

100% OP is right

Why not simply de-spawn them and then respawn them in another location? The mechanics are already present in the game. It seems like such a simple solution to me. 

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Funzo#7954 wrote:

Why not simply de-spawn them and then respawn them in another location? The mechanics are already present in the game. It seems like such a simple solution to me. 

Teleporting isn't the same, but that could work as a good-enough solution indeed. In fact the best solution seems to be from the mod linked above, which makes it a phase-through ability - but only on acts on entities. It doesn't allow ethereals to go through walls or houses like they're "supposed to" on tabletop and as any Ghosts do, which would in-fine be the most exciting thing in the whole game imo, absolute freedom of movement, scary type of stuff, getting ambushed from nowhere etc.

But Teleport could indeed be a solution.

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Haganaz#8763 wrote:

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Funzo#7954 wrote:

Why not simply de-spawn them and then respawn them in another location? The mechanics are already present in the game. It seems like such a simple solution to me. 

Teleporting isn't the same, but that could work as a good-enough solution indeed. In fact the best solution seems to be from the mod linked above, which makes it a phase-through ability - but only on acts on entities. It doesn't allow ethereals to go through walls or houses like they're "supposed to" on tabletop and as any Ghosts do, which would in-fine be the most exciting thing in the whole game imo, absolute freedom of movement, scary type of stuff, getting ambushed from nowhere etc.

But Teleport could indeed be a solution.

Just use the mechanic that is already in place for Domination but with a respawn attached to the backend. The timings can easily be adjusted in order to achieve the desired results. 

it would be enough to give the ethereal units the ability to fly and that would solve the problem​

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Player#80942 wrote:

it would be enough to give the ethereal units the ability to fly and that would solve the problem​

It would also introduce all of the current issues associated with flying units. They would also be very susceptible to missile units. 

They should have Strider, Woodsman, and Unspottable at the very least. 

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steam_16337071113996#2223 wrote:

Get out of my brain!

I was genuinely thinking this in a recent campaign as I killed an etherial unit with archers while the AI had it on a wall, madness I tell you!

If you go back to tabletop, etherial units for say vampire counts are like your anti tyrion, he is by default on TT an unkillable menace, especially where you go against as VC. But the perks of VC is that one etherial unit you can field, almost unkillable without a spell buff on your unit to enable magical attacks, but dies almost instantly if your lord/hero who raised them is killed.

But under no circumstances can a unit of archers kill an etherial unit, without buff or magical attacks applied.

I think what you have described there is absolutely correct, but I also think there is a simpler mechanic

1. You can't damage etherial units without magic attacks

2. Unless you kill the summoning lord/hero

But if that does happen, I do feel a cap is needed for the number of etherial units fielded, and a little bit of thought applied to how belegar iron hammer gets those heroes and when...

That's a great simple approach actually you're right! ^^

And it'll turn something quiet generic into a real mechanic node point, it's so much cooler & immersive to have hard mechanics like no damage except from magical sources. That means things matter, and army composition matter.

I'm sure there's something of a cap to be had for ethereal via the Winds of Magic (army) to prevent OP stacks for sure.

It's not hindsight if it was already present in WH1/2, but for WH3 the devs put in the EXTRA WORK to remove it, and replace it with something worse.

Which is the story for a lot of aspects of WH3.  Which is why I'm happily playing WH2.

There are a lot of improvements in WH3 I like (spells have fancy FX now), but too many things I like in WH2 were removed for dumb reasons.