​A Call for Total War: Shogun 3 – The Return of the Samurai!

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8 days ago
Mar 12, 2025, 2:26:06 AM



Fellow Total War fans, history enthusiasts, and lovers of epic battles, it's time we unite our voices for a cause that has been long overdue – Total War: Shogun 3!


Shogun 2 is widely regarded as one of the greatest Total War games of all time, blending deep strategy, breathtaking battles, and the legendary Sengoku Jidai period into an unforgettable experience. But it has been over a decade since we last marched our armies across Japan, and now, we need a new Shogun to rise!


Imagine a next-generation Total War set in feudal Japan, powered by modern technology, with stunning visuals, enhanced diplomacy, and an evolved battle system that truly captures the art of war. Picture samurai clashing in dynamic sieges, naval battles unfolding in stormy seas, and the return of legendary clans with deeper, more immersive mechanics.


With Total War: Three Kingdoms and Total War: Pharaoh, Creative Assembly has shown its ability to create rich historical experiences. Now is the time to revisit Japan’s most iconic era!


Let’s make our voices heard! If you dream of commanding your samurai once more, if you long for the return of legendary generals like Takeda Shingen and Oda Nobunaga, and if you believe the time is right for Shogun 3, join us in this call to action!


Spread the word, share your thoughts, and let’s show Creative Assembly that the world is ready for the return of Total War: Shogun 3


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7 days ago
Mar 12, 2025, 8:10:51 AM

No. I haven't played Shogun or Shogun 2. And I wouldn't play a Shogun 3 either.

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Mar 12, 2025, 8:18:57 AM

Player#436448 wrote:
Shogun 2 is widely regarded as one of the greatest Total War games of all time, blending deep strategy, breathtaking battles, and the legendary Sengoku Jidai period into an unforgettable experience. But it has been over a decade since we last marched our armies across Japan, and now, we need a new Shogun to rise!

By whom? The TWCenter grognards and the tryhardy sheeple they attract?


In truth, S2 is probably the most shallow of all TWs, rivalled only by WH3. S2 has been "solved" like TicTacToe, IE there is a sequence of moves that will always lead to victory because the game has so little variety and all factions are basically the same. Battles somehow also manage to be even shallower than in WH3 as well thanks to the extreme glass-cannon balancing where battles are entirely decided by the first charge and the AI being so very set in its ways (either all-out bum-rush with the leader immediately gallopping into a spear line or obstinate hillcamping). It also has by far the worst sieges in the series. Yes, even worse than the mobile game slop in WH3. Sorry, but samurai monkey-climbing up walls en-masse is simply offensively bad. 


If you want a much better Sengoku Jidai experience, I recommend Koei's Nobunaga's Ambition series, preferrably Sphere of Influence although I like the latest title, Awakening, quite a bit as well.

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Mar 12, 2025, 8:24:13 AM

TainBoCuailinge#8335 wrote:
In truth, S2 is probably the most shallow of all TWs

I agree. The Cult of Shogun 2 really should put away their rose tinted glasses. I mean sure it was good back in the day but compared to modern TW games it is just small, limited and yeah... shallow like you said. 


You basically have a map the size of the Rise of the Republic or Wrath of Sparta DLCs but instead of several diverse cultures you have 1 faction sharing the exact same base roser. 1 faction buffs Spears, the other buffs Archers and then there is another one buffing Cavalry. How fun! 


I played like 3 Shogun 2 Campaigns and then I got bored and never touched it again. 


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7 days ago
Mar 12, 2025, 9:09:43 AM

I play Total War since Rome 1 and had a real blast playing Shogun II FOTS.


I disagree with the former comments depicting Shogun II as a shallow experience, however I would say that the game can suffer from a lack of replayability due to its lack of diversity but it's not necessarily a problem since not every Total War game is meant to be played for thousand of hours. Playing just one long and entertaining campaign can already be a fulfilling experience in itself.


Now, as for Shogun III, it's far from being the priority. Medieval III and Empire II have to be tackled first and CA should also consider making a game focused around the Pike and Shot Era (or even the Victorian Period). And since Shogun II has always been one of the most polished Total War experience, the game still holds to this day.

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Mar 12, 2025, 9:40:30 AM

Thomashu#5291 wrote:

I play Total War since Rome 1 and had a real blast playing Shogun II FOTS.


I disagree with the former comments depicting Shogun II as a shallow experience, however I would say that the game can suffer from a lack of replayability due to its lack of diversity but it's not necessarily a problem since not every Total War game is meant to be played for thousand of hours.

This is my issue with mono-focus total wars, lack of cultural diversity. It kept me out of Shogun and 3K both.

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Mar 12, 2025, 9:55:41 AM

TheWattman#7460 wrote:

Thomashu#5291 wrote:

I play Total War since Rome 1 and had a real blast playing Shogun II FOTS.


I disagree with the former comments depicting Shogun II as a shallow experience, however I would say that the game can suffer from a lack of replayability due to its lack of diversity but it's not necessarily a problem since not every Total War game is meant to be played for thousand of hours.

This is my issue with mono-focus total wars, lack of cultural diversity. It kept me out of Shogun and 3K both.

3k was at least a character focused game so the campaign was mainly focused on collecting your Pokemon. Seeing a unique Character popping up in your recruitment pool was always something that excited me, you never knew who would show up. 

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7 days ago
Mar 12, 2025, 10:02:53 AM

1) TW:S2 is a great game

2) FotS is even greater

3) TW:S3 would be great*/**


*IF they cover all three periods of Sengoku Jidai + Imjin War

**IF there will not be super duper OP single entity lords/heroes and other OP features.


4) Nippon for WH:TW please.

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Mar 12, 2025, 10:06:33 AM

Loreguy#1056 wrote:

1) TW:S2 is a great game

2) FotS is even greater

3) TW:S3 would be great*/**


*IF they cover all three periods of Sengoku Jidai + Imjin War

**IF there will not be super duper OP single entity lords/heroes and other OP features.


4) Nippon for WH:TW please.

If we would ever get a Shogun 3 it should also cover the Japanese invasion of Korea and include Pirate factions as their own Culture, similar to how 3k had the Bandits as their own thing. 

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Mar 12, 2025, 10:36:25 AM

TheWattman#7460 wrote:

Thomashu#5291 wrote:

I play Total War since Rome 1 and had a real blast playing Shogun II FOTS.


I disagree with the former comments depicting Shogun II as a shallow experience, however I would say that the game can suffer from a lack of replayability due to its lack of diversity but it's not necessarily a problem since not every Total War game is meant to be played for thousand of hours.

This is my issue with mono-focus total wars, lack of cultural diversity. It kept me out of Shogun and 3K both.

There was a bit more diversity in 3K than in Shogun II, especially after the Furious Wild got released. And 3K has the best diplomacy mechanics in the entire series so far. Give it a try, even if it's just for one campaign.



Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Loreguy#1056 wrote:

1) TW:S2 is a great game

2) FotS is even greater

3) TW:S3 would be great*/**


*IF they cover all three periods of Sengoku Jidai + Imjin War

**IF there will not be super duper OP single entity lords/heroes and other OP features.


4) Nippon for WH:TW please.

If we would ever get a Shogun 3 it should also cover the Japanese invasion of Korea and include Pirate factions as their own Culture, similar to how 3k had the Bandits as their own thing. 

This. An Imjin Campaign Pack would be great.

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Mar 12, 2025, 10:39:30 AM

Thomashu#5291 wrote:
I disagree with the former comments depicting Shogun II as a shallow experience, however I would say that the game can suffer from a lack of replayability due to its lack of diversity but it's not necessarily a problem since not every Total War game is meant to be played for thousand of hours. Playing just one long and entertaining campaign can already be a fulfilling experience in itself.

It's not just the lack of replayability, it's, as I said, the fact that you can win any campaign by following the same steps. Don't go for diplomacy outside of trade agreements and selling military access. Look for the few rich rice settlements on the map and capture as many as you can without triggering RD. Lower taxes so that you can just pay for the armies you need. Put Metsuke in the richest settlements. Take whatever "bottleneck" regions you need and fortify them. Trigger RD by taking Kyoto. Increase taxes which will offset whatever you lose from trade. Watch RD armies fail at breaking through your bottlenecks. Win. Optional steps, acquire Nanban Trade Ships, place one in the north and one in the south which is enough to basically block any Japanese fleet from coming for you because NTS are overpowered and the AI never builds them.

O yeah, and you are also encouraged to build all your characters the same thanks to all of them having the same skill tree and there being skills that are better to take than others.


You also don't need any troops other than Ashigaru and light cavalry. Spearwall formation is simply too OP and research allows you to buff Ashigaru into the stratosphere. So, cool that a game with an already limited roster removes also the necessity to even use most of it.


S2 is shallow as heck. If you ever play the Nobunaga's Ambition series you'll never want to come back.

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Mar 12, 2025, 11:02:32 AM

Thomashu#5291 wrote:

TheWattman#7460 wrote:

Thomashu#5291 wrote:

I play Total War since Rome 1 and had a real blast playing Shogun II FOTS.


I disagree with the former comments depicting Shogun II as a shallow experience, however I would say that the game can suffer from a lack of replayability due to its lack of diversity but it's not necessarily a problem since not every Total War game is meant to be played for thousand of hours.

This is my issue with mono-focus total wars, lack of cultural diversity. It kept me out of Shogun and 3K both.

There was a bit more diversity in 3K than in Shogun II, especially after the Furious Wild got released. And 3K has the best diplomacy mechanics in the entire series so far. Give it a try, even if it's just for one campaign.



Captain_Rex#1635 wrote:

Loreguy#1056 wrote:

1) TW:S2 is a great game

2) FotS is even greater

3) TW:S3 would be great*/**


*IF they cover all three periods of Sengoku Jidai + Imjin War

**IF there will not be super duper OP single entity lords/heroes and other OP features.


4) Nippon for WH:TW please.

If we would ever get a Shogun 3 it should also cover the Japanese invasion of Korea and include Pirate factions as their own Culture, similar to how 3k had the Bandits as their own thing. 

This. An Imjin Campaign Pack would be great.

As long as Korea is part of the main campaign map I don't really care how they add it. I just don't want a TW game only focused on 1 Country. 

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Mar 12, 2025, 11:05:56 AM

Shogun 2 was a solid release. Well done, very few bugs but, of course, limited in scope. I would certainly buy a well done Shogun 3, especially if they added the Okinawa culture and possibly a Korean and Chinese culture DLC. 

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6 days ago
Mar 13, 2025, 12:42:29 PM

​You don't need Shogun 3; they could just add the Nippon faction to Warhammer, and that would solve the problem.

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Mar 13, 2025, 2:37:32 PM
Well, they can't support any recent historical title for more than 2 years, while competitors like CK3 is already 5 years old & 2025 is going to be quite interesting for CK3. Regardless what's the next historical title, its gonna be really hard to convince people to buy games from CA or SEGA for that matter esp when the competitors are doing a pretty good job.
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Mar 13, 2025, 4:02:34 PM

united84#8186 wrote:
Well, they can't support any recent historical title for more than 2 years, while competitors like CK3 is already 5 years old & 2025 is going to be quite interesting for CK3. Regardless what's the next historical title, its gonna be really hard to convince people to buy games from CA or SEGA for that matter esp when the competitors are doing a pretty good job.

Comparing Creative Assembly (CA) games to Crusader Kings III (CK3) by Paradox isn’t entirely fair. CK3 is a grand strategy game with a long lifespan, relying on gradual expansions and updates. In contrast, CA’s historical titles, especially the Total War series, focus on a unique combination of real-time battles and turn-based campaign strategy, meaning long-term support isn’t always necessary.


Furthermore, just because CK3 has been around for five years doesn’t automatically make it more relevant or compelling than a new CA title. Total War offers a distinct gameplay experience that CK3 cannot replace, and vice versa. For players who enjoy large-scale warfare with tactical depth, CA remains a top choice.


Additionally, convincing players to buy a game isn’t just about how long it’s supported but also about content quality, innovation in gameplay mechanics, and fresh experiences. If CA’s next historical title delivers an engaging and well-crafted experience, many players will still be eager to buy it, regardless of how long competitors have been on the market."**


This should make your argument solid and pers

uasive!


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Mar 13, 2025, 4:19:19 PM

Proposal for Shogun 3 – Expanding Total War to All of Asia 


Total War: Shogun 2 was a masterpiece—polished, immersive, and strategically deep. However, its limited scope left players longing for more. A potential Shogun 3 could take the franchise to unprecedented heights by expanding beyond Japan to encompass the entirety of Asia, bringing in new factions, unique military units, and breathtaking visuals that showcase the continent’s vast and diverse history.


1. A Grand Campaign Spanning All of Asia


Instead of being confined to the Sengoku Jidai period, Shogun 3 could feature a fully realized pan-Asian map that includes:


Japan – Unification of the Daimyos, expansion beyond the islands.


China (Ming/Qing Dynasties) – The dominant power of East Asia, facing internal strife and foreign threats.


Korea (Joseon Dynasty) – A strategic hub with a strong navy and elite archer forces.


Vietnam (Dai Viet) – Skilled guerrilla warriors and war elephants.


Southeast Asia (Ayutthaya, Majapahit, Malacca) – Rich trade empires with unique military formations.


Mongols – Masters of cavalry, mobile warfare, and steppe conquest.


Mughals (India) – The might of elephant cavalry, heavy artillery, and a vast empire.


Russia (Siberian Expansion) – A rising power expanding eastward into Asia.



2. Unique Armies with Distinct Playstyles


Each faction would have a unique military identity, offering vastly different gameplay experiences. Some key examples include:


Japan – Samurai warfare, disciplined formations, and legendary naval forces.


China – Powerful gunpowder units, fire lances, and elite cavalry.


Korea – The legendary Turtle Ships, elite archers, and defensive strategies.


Dai Viet – Swift ambush tactics, elephant-mounted warriors, and resilient fortifications.


Mongols – Unmatched horse archery, hit-and-run tactics, and devastating charge attacks.


India (Mughals) – Heavy war elephants, musketeers, and powerful siege weapons.


Southeast Asia – Flexible armies with jungle warfare specialists and maritime dominance.



3. Next-Level Visuals and Realistic Battlefields


To capture the grandeur of this historical setting, Shogun 3 must deliver cutting-edge visuals with:


Detailed armor and weapons reflecting historical accuracy.


Lifelike battle animations with realistic sword clashes, unit physics, and dynamic weather effects.


Expansive battlefields that span snowy plains of Siberia, lush jungles of Southeast Asia, and massive coastal battles in the Pacific.


Naval battles on a new scale, where monsoon storms and strong currents affect the tide of war.



4. Deep Diplomacy, Trade, and Empire Management


Trade networks connecting India, China, Japan, and Southeast Asia, with European merchants (Portugal, Spain, Netherlands) arriving as wildcard factions.


Advanced diplomacy where players can negotiate alliances, manage vassals, and deal with foreign interference.


Faction-specific government mechanics, from Japan’s Shogunate system to China’s bureaucracy and Mongolia’s khanate rule.



Why This Vision for Shogun 3 Will Succeed


Expanding the game to all of Asia not only offers diverse gameplay but also taps into massive gaming markets that have been historically underrepresented in Total War.


China, India, and Southeast Asia represent huge gaming audiences eager for more historical strategy content.


A multi-regional campaign provides endless replayability, with varied start positions, military doctrines, and expansion paths.


Total War needs a fresh setting, and a grand Asian strategy game would be the perfect evolution for the franchise.



Shogun 3 has the potential to be the most ambitious and visually stunning Total War game ever made. We, the fans, are ready. Will you answer the call?


Sincerely,

A devoted Total War fa

nbase.





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